View Full Version : Greg Palast and BBC reports about the GOP stolen elections,
10-13-2008, 09:29 PM
will it happen again in 2008?
10-14-2008, 02:04 AM
For some interesting reading (in case you're not alarmed enough), try:
http://www.globalresearch.ca/articles/CHI411B.html, http://www.thenation.com/blogs/thebeat/370240, http://www.michaelparenti.org/stolenelections.html, http://www.legitgov.org/index_hot_April5.html,
and, though admittedly biased, http://archive.democrats.com/display.cfm?id=248.
While I LOVE technology, my computer and the internet, I'm perfectly well aware that subversive programming can easily steal an election.
Computerized Voting links:
from 2002: http://www.commondreams.org/views02/0805-07.htm
in 2003: http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9800E4D6153FF937A15754C0A9659C8B 63
in 2006: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/12/04/AR2006120401290.html
and 2008: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/dave-johnson/computer-voting-machine-s_b_111876.html
I have a simple solution to test computerized voting machines. Have the machine print out a working ballot showing the voter's selections, let the voter confirm his or her response (after comparing his/her ballot with the official ballot to ensure that names have not been swapped or locations changed) then tally the vote in the traditional method and compare the results. It would only have to be run this way one time to prove or dis-prove effectiveness. Expensive? Yes. Worth it? You bet!
10-14-2008, 02:18 AM
Lord, I hope not. Judging by all the challenges in swing states already, though, it wouldn't surprise me.
10-14-2008, 03:21 AM
This is exactly why compulsory voting can work in America. If everyone's expected to vote then no one is unfairly barred from voting. Only those afraid of losing to a real majority should be opposed to compulsory voting.
10-14-2008, 04:43 AM
If I am not wrong I believe the last election some 50,000 votes were lost in Ohio and never counted, not counting how many people were turned away from the polls and not even allowed to fill out provisional ballots.
10-14-2008, 04:47 AM
They didn't count a bunch of the absentee votes last time either. They've signed up all of these college students to vote that obviously don't live in their polling places and are going to have a lot more than usual this year along with all of the military overseas and other places. I wonder if they'll do them right this year? There are a lot of weak spots with counting. They got rid of our computer voting here. We have to go back to the old school ones.
10-14-2008, 05:31 AM
This is super upsetting! I can deal with my candidate of choice losing IF it has been a fair race -- but if they win by this kind of cheating, what kind of country do we live in??? All voters deserve to have their vote count, and only count once!!!!
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