Ohio Voters!!!

[Chreamps]

Update: High court rejects GOP bid in Ohio Voting Dispute (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081017/ap_on_el_pr/scotus_voter_registration)

In a brief unsigned opinion, the justices said they were not commenting on whether Ohio is complying with a provision of the Help America Vote Act of 2002 that lays out requirements for verifying voter eligibility.
Instead, they said they were granting Brunner's request because it appears that the law does not allow private entities, like the Ohio GOP, to file suit to enforce the provision of the law at issue.
About 200,000 of 666,000 voters who have registered in Ohio since Jan. 1 have records that don't match. Brunner has said the discrepancies most likely stem from innocent clerical errors rather than fraud but has set up a verification plan.

[tammy1999]

Up to 666,000 clerical errors??????? What kind of government are they running in Ohio?

[Sharia Braxton]

200,000 discrepencies OUT OF 666,000

still a freaking high number though

[Gina.Maria]

Data entry is often performed by temporary workers with little or no experience. While it sounds like a high percentage, it's entirely possible that the money they're paying doesn't afford much in the way of accuracy. I wouldn't be too fast to jump on a possible "conspiracy to commit fraud" charge.

[Scorpiosue1102]

There are so many variables. Heck, my sons school got my e-mail wrong by putting a v instead of a u for Sue. Yeah LOL. The other thing I heard in passing, and I may get this wrong, that you should check your registration if you got married, changed your name, address, etc. because if one thing does not match up you may not be able to vote.

I worked with people that did order entry and data entry. It's amazing how easy it is for people to make simple mistakes. One wrong letter can make it impossible for you to vote. My brother lost his passport and had to go into downtown Chicago to get his quick since he was leaving in two days. We spent hours there. We got his passport and an "n" was a "m". We had to wait a whole other hour to get because otherwise he could have problems getting back into the country. One letter makes a difference.

Now fraud LOL:lol......

[NellieRose]

Could you imagine the amount of data entry to enter 660,000 forms?!?! So between lacks of updating pertinent info, type-o, and let's not forget misreading or inabaility to read the bad penmanship of registrants........

Not a job I would want to be working on.......

[DirtyFeetDesigns (heb1976)]

Okay ... so maybe it isn't *that* big of a deal. But what if one of these people, who are registered in say Ashtabula County are also registered in Lake County & Cuyahoga County. They could go and vote in all three places because of that said clerical error. So, there are 2 extra votes counted that shouldn't be allowed.

[HLWalter725]

Okay ... so maybe it isn't *that* big of a deal. But what if one of these people, who are registered in say Ashtabula County are also registered in Lake County & Cuyahoga County. They could go and vote in all three places because of that said clerical error. So, there are 2 extra votes counted that shouldn't be allowed.

Well if someone did that I would think it is a big deal. That is voter fraud and illegal. I'm not sure how it works, but when I moved and registered to vote from my new address, I never had to let anyone know I wasn't going to vote in my last place. I'm *assuming* that the most recent cancels out the last -- but we ALL know what happens when you assume. :lol

But, anyway, I understood these clerical errors to be more like someone's addy had a typo, not duplicate or triplicate registrations for one person. I could be wrong, but that was how I was following it.

[Tiffikat]

In my area of Ohio we have to show a picture ID with our address on it to vote. If our address is not correct on our ID we have to bring a piece of mail from a university, college, or government company (such as the water company) in order to vote. Otherwise we are not allowed. Maybe that is just Hamilton County though.

[txmusicmom]

If there is nothing to hide- why are they against verifying these registrations?

Baffles me........

[DirtyFeetDesigns (heb1976)]

In my area of Ohio we have to show a picture ID with our address on it to vote. If our address is not correct on our ID we have to bring a piece of mail from a university, college, or government company (such as the water company) in order to vote. Otherwise we are not allowed. Maybe that is just Hamilton County though.

On the back of the card that my husband just received for his voting station, it says that you must show a photo ID. If you do not have a photo ID, you can bring in a utility bill or statement from your bank showing your current address. In that case - you could be registered in 3 different counties (lived in them at one time) and show an old utility bill and vote those 3 times. *If* that is possible ... then that is a big problem.

Do you really think these people - after say 6 hours of dealing with us people as voters would pay as close attention to certain things as they should? Like a date on that bill?

They need to come up with a new system. And I do believe the only way you can vote is if you show a picture ID like a driver's license or state ID with your current registered address on it.

[lunafaerie]

I just heard on Larry King tonight, some one said there has only been 20 or so cases of actual voter fraud in a decade. They were prosecuted, hardly going to cost anyone an election :shrug

Registration fraud is not against the law, you can register how ever many times you like. Voter fraud is against the law, and it very rarely happens.

This is a lot of bruhaha over nothing, IMO.

[HLWalter725]

If there is nothing to hide- why are they against verifying these registrations?

Baffles me........

That isn't how I understood the situation. I understood it as they weren't willing to verify that all these registrations had been dumped.

[txmusicmom]

I just heard on Larry King tonight, some one said there has only been 20 or so cases of actual voter fraud in a decade. They were prosecuted, hardly going to cost anyone an election :shrug

Registration fraud is not against the law, you can register how ever many times you like. Voter fraud is against the law, and it very rarely happens.



Hmmmmm I have to respectfully disagree. Voter fraud in Chicago as well as parts of Florida has been spoken about for years........

[Scorpiosue1102]

Yes, there was vote fraud in Chicago. I believe the years were 1960 and 1982. There was talk of vote fraud in East Chicago last year, but that's near St. Louis. I don't remember any new voter fraud in Chicago, but my brain is not working on all circuits today.

Vote fraud will happen all over the country. In fact, I just saw an article today where a man was having people sign for tough child molester penalties, but was instead the people were signing to join the GOP. If they do not change their party affiliation they would get a GOP ballot. I think the article was in the LA Times.

[Gina.Maria]

If there is nothing to hide- why are they against verifying these registrations?

Baffles me........

That isn't how I understood the situation. I understood it as they weren't willing to verify that all these registrations had been dumped.

My understanding was they already determined the problem was clerical errors and were unwilling to suspend regular duties (which included adding all the more recent registrations to the polls) in order to verify these errors as non-fraudulent (a conclusion they'd already determined.) Forcing them to verify keeps them too busy to register new voters who, apparently, favor Obama.