Anyone catch Frontline tonight?

[kjbstevens]

On PBS? It was really, really good and went back through the histories of both of the candidates and showing their reasons behind where the stand. If you all get a chance this week watch the replay. It explains a lot about both of them.

[nightlily]

I will def. have to check this out. Thanks for the heads up!

[Chreamps]

Thanks for the heads up! Here's a link where you can watch it, but I'll have to wait till tomorrow.

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/choice2008/

[HLWalter725]

Sounds like a good watch. Thanks for the info!!!

[kjbstevens]

I was really, really suprised by some of the stuff I learned about both of them from it.

I finally understand why McCain is so for winning Iraq after his feeling about staying a POW and coming back to a lost war because he doesn't want those soliders to deal with what he did. Then he sort of went to pieces for years until the military made him an escort for politicans that got him into the game of politics. He definately has a temper though. They showed that especially courting leaving the party after Bush won and that's why he was so into taking on the party was more out of hatred of Bush and what he did instead of the party itself.

It helped me see what Obama did with the community stuff. It did sort of make me leery about his boss saying he only hired him because he was black and that he won his first election because he had everyone else taken off the ballot for voter fraud. All of the stuff he did at Harvard though was really good. That whole thing was greatly needed for someone to step up and do. It never really showed what he actually did that helped people, but it did show that he did at least inspire people to want to do better which without that mindframe it doesn't happen so that was good.

It showed both as humans good and bad. It really does help explain their policies though big time. I don't think it showed any of them in a scandelous or unfair way because they showed the good and bad of both pretty equally. It's probably a nice thing for us all to find some common ground with.

[txmusicmom]

Originally Posted by kjbstevens

I finally understand why McCain is so for winning Iraq after his feeling about staying a POW and coming back to a lost war because he doesn't want those soliders to deal with what he did. Then he sort of went to pieces for years until the military made him an escort for politicans that got him into the game of politics. He definately has a temper though. They showed that especially courting leaving the party after Bush won and that's why he was so into taking on the party was more out of hatred of Bush and what he did instead of the party itself.
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I'm sure there are some good things in this- I'll try to watch it. PBS isn't known for being totally neutral. It seems to show motive on both issues and that's conjecture unless he has said it himself. I think McCain is a bigger man than to take on the Republican party out of hatred for Bush.

Media-
Last night on David Letterman- the guy who plays Bush proudly announced Vote for Obama.....
He has his nightly McCain *video* joke- which is fine-- I haven't seen an Obama one yet. ( doesn't mean there hasn't been one--but I've seen McCain at least 3 times.

This morning on a news show- showing the oldest person who will vote ( from the Vatican) She's 106- Cute little gal. They said while we didn't ask-- she told them she was voting for Obama....yes in her own voice-
interesting that that didn't get edited out.


I have NO problem with any of this............I just don't see as much coverage of those who support McCain- I did see one guy on Letterman- I can't recall his name although he did a very nice job explaining why he supported him.

[kjbstevens]

I don't know a lot of his stuff with the party back a few years ago was only against Bush policy which is why I'm trying to figure out why people think he is more of him. I just found it amusing as a McCain supporter myself. It was a lot more pro-McCain than usual. They actually explained out how is one of the very few that actually really has been bipartisan in solving problems compared to Obama usually only listening to his leadership and explaining why he was running now. The democratic leadership told him to do it before he had a voting record for people to tear apart. Great advice Daschle and the words came from his mouth that he told him this. There were points they were showing like that which you usually don't get from PBS. They really did a much better job than usual and I'm a usual media hater too.

[NellieRose]

Originally Posted by kjbstevens

I just found it amusing as a McCain supporter myself. It was a lot more pro-McCain than usual. They actually explained out how is one of the very few that actually really has been bipartisan in solving problems compared to Obama usually only listening to his leadership and explaining why he was running now.

In all fairness your perception is somewhat misleading and makes it sound as if Barack Obama hasn't done anything through bipartisan measures and only took marching orders from higher ups.....if I am correct, since 2005 John McCain has had more bipartisan activities than Barack Obama but in no way means Obama does not/did not take part in reaching across the so called aisle.

What I found interesting in the Frontline piece was that McCain almost left the Republican party and switched over to the Democratic party.......

[DirtyFeetDesigns (heb1976)]

Originally Posted by txmusicmom

I have NO problem with any of this............I just don't see as much coverage of those who support McCain- I did see one guy on Letterman- I can't recall his name although he did a very nice job explaining why he supported him.

That is along the same lines of the Doonesbury comic about Todd and Sara Palin. They were saying if the tables were turned and all about Biden and his family ... it would have been a very big deal. Oh well, what can you do?!

[lunafaerie]

Originally Posted by DirtyFeetDesigns (heb1976)

That is along the same lines of the Doonesbury comic about Todd and Sara Palin. They were saying if the tables were turned and all about Biden and his family ... it would have been a very big deal. Oh well, what can you do?!

I didn't see that comic, what are you referring too?